Windham Planning Board Approves Public Safety Building Plans

[0:47] Chair (presiding officer): I can't approve the first one. Which will be called to order. This is a public proceeding. Please advise the chair if you are unable to hear or see something. See or hear something, sorry. Please know that the planning board members will disclose any potential conflicts of interest of which they are aware at the start of the applicable agenda item. The land use ordinance, the comprehensive plan, and planning board rules are available for viewing on the town's website and the town office. I'm not going to read the ground rules for public hearings, because we don't have one tonight. So what do we have for a public hearing? Everything. Everything. I'm sorry. Both the public hearings. Yes, I apologize, I went right to the last one. Okay, I will read the ground rules for public hearing applications are as follows. The applicant's presentation is first, we will then have staff comments, after that will be public comments. Please state your name and address for the record, and all questions must be asked through the chair. We will then go to board discussion, and if we could have a roll call, please. Emily Legere. Present. Leo Gerrier. Here. Melissa Young. Here. [1:58] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: Marge Giovanni. Here. Everett Kirken. Present. Rick Yost. Present. Absent tonight is Kathleen Brown, and present for staff tonight is Natalie Thompson, town planner, and we have quorum. [2:14] Chair (presiding officer): Okay. Thank you. First on the agenda is PB 26-071, approval of minutes of the meeting of September 14th, 2026. So moved. Second. Okay. Any comments? Okay. Seeing none, all those in favor? Abstain? One abstention. All right. Before we start, I'm going to make a motion to move the second item on the agenda, which is PB 26-072, the Wyndham Mall, 26-20, the Wyndham Mall. Make a motion to move that to the beginning of the agenda. If I could have a second. [Speaker C (unidentified): Second. So moved.] Okay. All those in favor? We are moving this because in order to approve the first item on the agenda, we need approval of the second one. So, Natalie, is that yours? And I'll say it first. It's 26-20, the Windham Mall, amended major subdivision, preliminary and final plan review, Franklin Drive, Town of Windham. The application is to amend the Wyndham Mall subdivision to create one new 5.07-acre lot for the North Wyndham Public Safety Building and to revise associated drainage, access, and utility easements. Subject property is identified as Tax Map 70, Lot 14 portion, Zone Commercial C1 in the Little Sebago Lake Watershed. Natalie? [3:53] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: I'm assuming the applicant would come up and do it. Okay. Okay, explain there. [4:12] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): Hello, good evening. My name is Tanner Goodine from Sebago Technics. I'm here on behalf of the applicant, the town of Wyndham, for this portion of, I'll call it the North Wyndham Public Safety Project. This is the amended major subdivision application that was requested at our last meeting in July. We had not submitted that application at this time because we did not have the DEP approval order. However, in discussions with the town planning department, we have submitted that for your review as that is the last outstanding item that we need. We have included correspondence with the Maine Department of Environmental Protection, noting that they are, that they have noted that they are writing the permit order, the approval order. So I'll talk about the application a little bit. It kind of leads into the site plan. But we are amending the Wyndham Mall subdivision to create a new parcel that has been discussed previously. You'll see it here in yellow. As well as we are, oh yeah, that's great. We are revising, we are extinguishing one existing, we are proposing to extinguish one existing easement, which is a drainage and septic easement that has been granted to Home Depot for their septic system. We are proposing a new easement for purely the drainage as they connect to the, existing infiltration basin on the parcel. We are also proposing an access and construction easement across the existing rear section of the Hannaford parking lot to revise that to the fire station or the public safety building's new access driveway. With that, we are also, as part of the subdivision to the north, the Franklin Drive right-of-way was revised. There's a cul-de-sac at the end of that, And part of that cul-de-sac is being conveyed to this parcel to be included in that parcel area. That is shown, it's not highlighted in yellow, but it is shown at the top left corner and is on the subdivision plan, the amended subdivision plan. With that, I'm happy to pass it back over to staff to continue to talk about the project. [6:22] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: Yeah, so pretty much everything that Tanner just said, I don't have a lot of extra notes, but I will note that the SLOTA application, as it's discussed, they do have an active site law on the site. It just needs to be amended, so that's not anything that should hold us up tonight. The condition of approval will just state that they'll need to get the number that comes from the approval, so their amendment number, to put on the recorded plan, so they can't record the plan until that new number comes in. Other than that, they, I believe all the other information is there, but [7:12] Chair (presiding officer): Okay, I'll open it up to public comment. Seeing no one from the public, I am closing public comment, and we'll go ahead. Natalie, sorry, one more [7:26] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: thing. They are requesting a preliminary and a final plan tonight. So when there is any lot line changes, you have to go through preliminary as well. So the notions tonight will have to reflect both of those, if you're willing to approve them both in one meeting or not. Okay, I [7:52] Speaker C (unidentified): guess the first part of that's super simple, because it's the preliminary and the final, but I mean, the lines aren't changing. We've already had them here before us, so we've already gone through all this stuff again. So it's not like we're looking for them to change anything between now and then, so I think that part of it's pretty simple. And again, we've already had this in front of us, we've gone through it, so looks pretty simple to me. Anybody got anything? Emily, I just [8:15] Speaker E (unidentified): had a question on one of the, page 55 of the preliminary application. It's a bunch of letters for maybe the codes, and maybe they mean something, but they don't mean anything to me, so I just wanted clarification of what that document is supposed to be. Are you able to pull that up, Natalie? Yeah, I'm looking. Thank you. That's [8:51] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: the Windham Mall. I'm in two places. Wait, [8:58] Chair (presiding officer): that's right, sorry. It says [9:03] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: North Windham Public Safety. Okay, sorry, it was a labeled response to comment, it wasn't labeled app, so I was confused. You said page 55, yes, it should look like a satellite image with color overlay and a bunch of random characters instead of text. [10:19] Speaker E (unidentified): Okay, good, you're, I'm seeing this like random characters. Oh yeah, very well, not a secret code, [10:24] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): no, it looks like, I'm willing to bet, I'm willing to bet that's the a portion of the flood map. The site's not within a floodplain, but sometimes when we generate those and flatten them, the characters get messed up when we upload them as PDFs. [10:43] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: Yeah, let me see if I pull it off the website like you guys are looking at it, maybe that's [11:08] Speaker C (unidentified): was that kind of the purpose of it, was to show that it's not in a floodplain? [11:15] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: It's right before the Section 7 Utilities header, divider page. [11:23] Chair (presiding officer): That's the site. Looks awkward. [11:28] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): That's the overall shoreland and resource protection map. It's just showing that we're not in any of those. The blue circle is our site. [11:45] Chair (presiding officer): And the letters mean? Nothing. Nothing. They really don't make sense. [11:53] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): I would be happy to provide an updated copy of that. Yeah. [11:59] Chair (presiding officer): I think it's not the photo as much as it is the scroll to the bottom. There you go. Yes. Is that? Yes. [12:12] Speaker E (unidentified): Yep. Yeah, and the title at the top is for similar. Right, it's similar. H-J-K. [12:16] Chair (presiding officer): Similar. Yep. So if you could just, yes, if you could just apply. [12:20] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): I will send that to you tomorrow. [12:22] Chair (presiding officer): Something to Natalie. [12:24] Speaker E (unidentified): That's the only question I had. Yeah, I apologize. I apologize for that. That's the only question I had. Anything, Leo? No. Melissa? No, not at this time. [12:39] Chair (presiding officer): Everett? Are you good? Okay. Are there any, Natalie, are there any other items on this that are open that are going to be covered in conditions or anything? [12:54] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: You think so as Tanner said there is a couple easements that they'll need to essentially like they're working with Home Depot to release the easement for the septic because they're going to be connecting to sewer and then there's a another easement that might go more with the public safety building, actually, but before the Cumberland County Sheriff's building is built, the easement will have to be modified, and then the slow to application. But everything is in the conditions, which we have the traditional ones, the stormwater. They'll have to get their final land conveyance right now, but nothing unexpected, I don't think. [14:11] Chair (presiding officer): Can you bring up I think we're all set. Let's see, preliminary plan first. I need to do completeness first. I forgot about that. Sorry. [14:20] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: The amended major subdivision preliminary plan application for project 26-20, Wyndham Mall 4th amended subdivision, is found complete in regard to the submission requirements based on the application checklist but the planning board retains the right to request more information where review criteria are not fully addressed we [14:39] Chair (presiding officer): have a second okay all those in favor it is unanimous i move the amended [14:49] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: major subdivision preliminary plan application for project 26-20 Windham Mall Fourth Amended Subdivision, Franklin Drive, Tax Map 70, Lot 14 portion. Zone Commercial 1 is to be approved with the findings of fact, conclusions, and conditions of approval in the staff memo dated September 24, 2026. [15:13] Chair (presiding officer): Can I have a second? Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any more questions, comments? Okay, all those in favor? It is unanimous. [15:28] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: I move the amended major subdivision final plan application for project 26-20, Wyndham Mall 4th amended subdivision, Franklin Drive, tax map 70, lot 14, portion, zone commercial one, is to be approved with conditions, with the findings of fact, conclusions, and conditions of approval in the staff memo dated September 24, 2026. [15:57] Chair (presiding officer): Second. Okay, we have a motion, this second, all those in favor, it is unanimous, thank you. All right, moving on, PB 26-073, 26-05, North Windham. What? Sorry, I just lost track. [16:20] Speaker C (unidentified): Yeah, we did all three, we did preliminary, yep. [16:23] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: I did completeness once. [Speaker C (unidentified): Completeness once.] And then, okay, sorry. Yep. All set? Yep. Okay. [16:30] Chair (presiding officer): PB 26-073, 26-05, North Wyndham Public Safety Building, Major Site Plan, Final Plan Review, Franklin Drive, Town of Wyndham. The application is to construct a two-story, plus or minus 27,950-square-foot public safety building for the Wyndham Fire and Police Departments, with five apparatus bays, 40 parking spaces, and associated access, utility, and stormwater improvements. Subject property is identified as Tax Map 70, Lot 14, Portion, Zone Commercial C1, in the Little Sebago Lake Watershed. And here for the applicant is. Hello, my name is Tanner [17:10] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): Goodine. On behalf of the applicant, the Town of Wyndham, we were previously before you in July,, in July, late July, where we talked about this project. We, the planning board brought up comments, as part of that application review. We have since, with the time since that meeting, have implemented those comments, and are back before you to discuss the updated plan. [17:39] Chair (presiding officer): Thank you. You want to go through it? Sure. Thank you. So I'll go [17:46] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): go right through the list. So one of the comments previously brought up was to move the accessible, the ADA accessible parking space closer to the front entrance of the building. You'll actually see that in the updated rendering. I don't want to move too far from the mic. It's not directly in front of that ramp, because that would require an additional step in front of the building. So we put it as close as we could to provide the tip down just to the immediate north of the space, and ramp back up to that existing grade. So it's less than 10 feet away from that entrance walkway. Additionally, we also, in discussions with the architect and the town, revised the ADA ramp in front of the building. This was not brought up by the planning staff,, but while I'm in front of the building, I thought I'd bring it up. Initially, it was a switchback, so it doubled back on itself. We've updated it, so it's a straight section, so it continues in one direction straight towards the sidewalk there and then connects to the front sidewalk. Additionally, we have since added screening to the generator and the transformer to the east of the building, east of the building, because it is visible from, as you're driving up Franklin Drive as well as in the Hannaford parking lot. So we screened that. Public access to the parking lot. So a comment was brought up at the previous meeting about confusion on public access, how it was going to be accessed. And we have since included in our comment response application the agreement that is shared by all parties of the Wyndham Mall patrons, where the Wyndham Mall subdivision has a shared agreement. It's an overall, I don't really know, it's an agreement. I would say it's not really an easement. It's an agreement that all parties share in the Wyndham Mall, that all parking is able to be accessed and shared through. This allows people from the public that are to visit that rear parking lot to drive through the Hannaford parking lot, that entrance south of our proposed entrance, they are legally allowed through that agreement to enter the Hannaford parking lot and enter that rear parking lot. Additionally, to make this clear, we've added emergency vehicles only signs to the driveway on both sides, both on the Franklin Drive side and the side of the building, the right side of the building, between that parking lot and the apparatus bay to clearly designate that as a no public vehicles additionally they can use the public spaces on the street but we understand that some of the space on this site may be used for public events farmers market such that we wanted to make it clear that people could use that lot but not enter the driveway additionally regarding information along the front buffering standard was brought up by town staff, and we have provided updated landscaping information regarding that front buffer. We have strategically placed it so that it doesn't impact permanent structures for the sewer. There is that sewer, the existing sewer line that was recently installed. We didn't want to implant trees over the top of that, so we have strategically shifted, but it meets the intention of the buffer along the front of the building. [21:25] Chair (presiding officer): Natalie, can you bring up the planting landscape plan? [21:29] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: It's not in my purse right there. [21:46] Chair (presiding officer): Tanya, you can keep talking. Okay. [21:51] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): Additionally, it was brought up at the site walk as well as by the town engineer and the fire chief to increase the radii of the front driveway to 25. That was a standard, I believe, that was accepted or adopted after we had submitted, but felt that we could probably accommodate that, and given the larger vehicles that are going to be entering and exiting the site, we thought it was the best idea to increase those. So we have shown that. Additionally, we have provided updated architectural designs that meet the commercial district design standards. With that, there was a waiver requested, which I think I'll save discussion for at the end if that feels appropriate so I can get through. We can talk about the rest of them. Again, I'm just reading this as they come in order. This next one is about the 25-foot radii, so I'll skip that one. Plans showing additional snow storage. So we have increased how much snow storage we're showing. We've added areas along the southeast of the driveway where the parallel spaces are. In conjunction with that, we moved the dumpster to behind the building, as requested by the planning board, to shield it more from public view rather than have it kind of front and center. So when we moved that, we actually added that as a snow storage area. We've also added area alongside the Cumberland County Sheriff's Office bay between Franklin Drive and that apron. It's a little, it's a cut around kind of a little bit, but we did that strategically so that people weren't piling snow on top of the pump station. We also showed it to the east of the driveway apron for the Apparatus Bay and also alongside the eastern edge of the public parking spaces. We added a detail for the retaining wall that was requested by the town engineer. The next comment is regarding a wash plan based on comments from PWD. So we actually had a meeting with PWD last week where we discussed this and we're still working on a solution with them, but we believe we have a good path moving forward. In our discussion, we talked to them about our proposal. There were concerns about operations of this, whether it would be left open or on left open. We believe we have a path forward that can address that either through a mechanical valve or actually changing the grates of the trench drain to a solid cover, which would meet their requirements. So they said if we propose something similar to that, then they would approve it. So we're We're working with them as part of this site plan to get that addressed. So we believe we have a path forward on that. And the last comment I have from the town engineer is regarding the width of the travel way on Franklin Drive after adding the parallel spaces. So Franklin Drive in its existing condition is 30 feet wide and it has two 12 foot lanes and two three foot shoulders, one on either side. The travel way from curb line to the I'll call it the front of the parallel parking spaces will be 27 feet in the proposed condition. The reason for that is roads with parallel parking spaces do not need shoulders. They screen or provide a buffer between pedestrians and the travel way just by adding those parallel spaces. So we have opted to not have a 15-foot drive lane or a three-foot shoulder in between the parallel parking spaces. So the updated design from the proposed driveway apron cuts in a little bit to eliminate the shoulder, provides the parallel spaces, and then at the end of the parallel spaces widens back out to meet that 30 feet. So in the proposed condition, there will be a 27-foot wide road from front of parallel space to the curb line. Until you get past the parallel spaces, it will return to 30 feet. With that, those are all the comments I have. I [25:49] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: have one comment on the waiver. So they requested a waiver that they don't need, so I'm just going to explain why. So the waiver request is for the facade on the building and they are building their building schedule is in two phases but you're only approving one building tonight. So from our perspective as a town they'll be meeting the standard. They will only not be meeting the standard while they're in construction phases, which will not affect your approval tonight. For that reason the waiver is not needed because their end product will meet [26:34] Chair (presiding officer): the standard and that's what we're approving right so when the sheriff's portion of it [26:40] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: is added then yes then they'll be in well no waiver is ever going to be needed because you're approving you're approving the building as though everything's because everything is being built got it the phase one and phase two language in their application all has to do with the building phases not the application phases this is not a phased approval. That is only, no, I have. [27:12] Chair (presiding officer): Emily, do you have anything? [27:14] Speaker E (unidentified): Yes, I had, questions about the screening that you have around the generator and the, what was the other, the other item next to it? You have grasses there. Is there a place that's open for maintenance of the generator? Is that something that's on the design or going to be identified so that planting can allow for that access? [27:46] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): Yes. So if you see between the two pads, there's ways to get in. There's also a gap on the left side of the generator pad for it's the wires, but also it's accessible through that route. We'll be working with the electrical engineer and CMP for the final. These are pretty much final but they might tweak a little bit so they'll have comments about where those plantings actually end up this is a good representation of what will end up being there but i imagine that in discussions they may want a plant moved here or there to allow them to [28:19] Speaker E (unidentified): properly maintain them as they wish and then does the generator have an exhaust that would potentially harm these grasses over time can you correct me it's it's a natural gas generator so it doesn't have an exhaust it's not a diesel generator okay and then do these grasses die down or get cut back at any point in time in the season they shouldn't they're not like [28:45] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): like lawn grasses they're kind of they're they're more hardy than that so they should maintain over the season and they'll likely get shorter as the season gets colder and come back they would be maintained similar to like a shrub so they maybe get like pruned and whatnot i guess my question [29:01] Speaker E (unidentified): is there any point in throughout the year that the generator would now be visible because of [29:07] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): the grass is dying back it may be slightly visible because the shrubs maybe don't have as much foliage on them but i would anticipate that they wouldn't be visible neither the transformer nor the generator that [29:28] Speaker E (unidentified): was for my only questions thank you thank [29:30] Speaker C (unidentified): you know anything yeah but forgive me if I'd like missed it and all this but I guess the question is there a does this require a lighting plan like an [29:41] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): Exterior lighting plan, yes, we submitted a photometrics as part of our initials. [29:45] Speaker C (unidentified): Right, and I just didn't see it. Great, and it looks good. Scared me for yes, all. That's great, and that's wonderful. Yeah, that's all I had. I'll take a look. Melissa? [29:59] Chair (presiding officer): I had nothing at this time. Rick? [30:04] Speaker C (unidentified): My concern, just like last time, was the ADA, which you took care of. I wish there was more than one, but I understand. The other question I had was, I also had the question last about the emergency entrances and stuff. So I'm seeing stripes there. I assume those stripes are going to exist. They were going to be painted stripes. [30:19] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): The ones along the parking lot. [30:23] Speaker C (unidentified): Yes. Yes. And I see on Franklin you're going to have two signs, one on each sign, but it looks like only one sign on the parking lot side. Is that? Correct. Okay. All right. Yeah. [30:39] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: So when we talked about the apparatus washing operation, right,, so when you say Portland Water District, can you remind me, were we talking about water supply? Were we talking about discharge into the sewer? Were we talking about, where does the water go? [31:00] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): So Portland Water District operates and maintains the public sewer in the town of Wyndham. What we're specifically discussing is not the ability to serve or the fire suppression, but we're talking about the vehicle washing on the Apparatus Bay. The fire department typically washes their vehicles out on the apparatus bay. In order to do that and meet our stormwater management stormwater quality requirements and quantity requirements, we have to provide, we have to provide basically separation between times when they will wash their vehicles and have soapy discharge that could run off of the apparatus bay and typical stormwater discharge. So typical stormwater discharge that would hit the apparatus bay is conveyed and treated by the proposed infiltration basin, or the infiltration system underneath the parking lot, excuse me. When they are washing vehicles, we're proposing a system that will allow that soapy discharge, which is considered an unauthorized stormwater discharge to the Maine Department of Environmental Protection, a way to leave the apparatus bay or the apron, without going to the infiltration system, which would be through a trench drain located along the apparatus bay apron. To do that, we have to provide a valve, or what we're initially proposing is to provide a valve at the end of that trench drain, so that when they are washing vehicles, that can be opened, and the wash runoff can enter that trench drain, and instead of going to the infiltration system, it will connect to the sewer, and it will be conveyed through the pump station to the public sewer. And then at any other typical time, that water will go through the trench drain, but it will drain to the infiltration system. So the only time you would be experiencing sewer discharge from that would be when they're washing vehicles. chemicals. PWD was concerned with essentially the operation of that, where it's essentially reliant on the fire department to open and close that when they're ready to. So we brought up the idea, and they had no problem with the connection. They had no problem with us using a trench drain or a similar device to drain that discharge. However, it was the connection piece, because if it's left open it either goes potentially to the infiltration system or sewer well sewer would go to the infiltration system they had no concerns with potential storm water getting into the sewer system so we either proposed that valve would either be mechanically controlled similar to the pump station where if you press a button it automatically closes or it's timed so that way they're washing vehicles for say 20 minutes after a certain amount of time it closes the other consideration was to put solid covers on that trench drain so when they're not washing vehicles it just runs any basically like a sidewalk or a continuation of the driveway apron and will go where it's eventually continuing to go and then when they're washing they open those covers and the water runs off and into the trench drain so that way there's no valve it just either goes into the trench drain or it doesn't so those are our two options currently and those are two of the potential proposals that we would give to them and both they have said that they would approve they just would like to see our updated design the thing that we have to weigh on our end is what's the best proposal for the town of Wyndham what is the best operations and maintenance procedure that they could have and also from a cost perspective what makes sense for this project who [34:37] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: From the from the from the planning staff looks at a proposal like that and approves it because we don't have any ordinance around this. Is very reminiscent of when we were talking about the camping world where they were looking to have, you know, campers come in and dump their black water and then we didn't have any holding tank. Anyway, long story short, we had a pretty sizable discussion here about operating procedures and how we could put in place safeguards because, you know, it sounds like PWD is fine with a lot of things. But if something else goes wrong, you'll be discharging soapy water into the stormwater infrastructure. That is the problem we don't want, right? Well, if PDABD says, well, we can have some stormwater infiltrate every now and then, great. So I kind of want to see some explanation of safeguards, operating procedures. Sure. So we have had a conversation about this amongst staff and it would go with like Steve and Mark Oriente the town engineer would be the ones who would be looking at their final design and plan and everything and the condition of approval is the planning director. [35:57] Chair (presiding officer): That's number seven if you want to read it. I don't care so much about well I do care. [36:05] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: I care about and the agreement with PWD, but also the fact that the town planning staff signs off on the operating procedures and the plan for preventing soapy water getting into stormwater infrastructure. [36:19] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): I would also say it ends up landing with him. [36:22] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: On everything, right, everything, that comes off of the apparatus. [36:25] Speaker H (unidentified): So just to answer your question a little bit, all of our – [36:28] Chair (presiding officer): Tell people who you are, even though we know. [36:30] Speaker H (unidentified): All of our facilities, all of the fire stations, public works, all have operations and maintenance plans that we all have to, they get updated routinely, and then we train on them annually, and all staff has to train on them annually. And those plans are also what's submitted with our MS4 applications and our compliance there. There so those checks and balances are there to one make sure people are doing what they're supposed to do for each facility because it happens currently that all four facilities for us are a little bit different and then so they are trained on that routinely and then it also is contingent on our federal MS4 requirements as well so that it's pretty well monitored well. [37:16] Chair (presiding officer): Okay that's good to know. Did you have anything else over? No. [37:23] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: No, that was my main concern. Okay. [37:29] Chair (presiding officer): So everything that is pending is in the conditions of approval right now? Yes. [37:36] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: So we have the sewer thing that we just talked about. We have the phase two water district easement that they have to get executed before they can build that building. And then we have the subdivision plan that was just approved needs to be recorded before any work can start on the site. And then the DEP application has to be updated, which also has to go on the amended subdivision as well, the SLOTA number. [38:21] Chair (presiding officer): Okay. I have to open for public comment. So you know public I'm closing public comment just to say that I did it. Are we all set? Does anybody have any burning questions, thoughts? Okay I [38:43] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: move the major site plan application for project 26-05 North Windham Public Safety Building Franklin Drive Tax Map 70 we already found it complete last time it says there I move the major site plan application for project 26-05 North Windham Public Safety Building Franklin Drive Tax Map 70 Lot 14 portion zone commercial 1 is to be approved with conditions with the findings of fact conclusions and conditions of approval in the staff memo dated September 24 2026 can [39:21] Chair (presiding officer): I have a second? Okay. Are there any more comments, questions? [39:26] Speaker E (unidentified): Just that this slide should be updated to remove the waiver. [39:31] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: Yeah, I can do that. This doesn't really go anywhere. It just stays, but I can get rid of it. [39:36] Speaker H (unidentified): If there's any other record of it, we may just want to check. [39:39] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: I was going to take all the waiver information out of the final findings and facts because you didn't make a motion on it anyway. But, yes, thank you. Great. Thank you. Okay, all those in favor? I'll say thank you for updating the architectural plans to work well within the, you know, the somewhat onerous requirements of the commercial design standards. [40:02] Chair (presiding officer): All those in favor? It is unanimous. When are you thinking of breaking ground? [40:11] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): The day after we get our DEP permit, hopefully. I thought I'd ask. [40:15] Chair (presiding officer): Before winter, maybe? Yes. [40:18] Tanner Goodine, Sebago Technics (applicant's engineer): Yes, the hope is, I mean, we have to, with these design revisions, [40:21] Speaker E (unidentified): we need to complete our architectural and structural design drawings. [40:26] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: So we're hoping December 1. [40:30] Chair (presiding officer): And get all the plumbing done for the sewer. And the sewer. Which is under your building. [40:36] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: And slew the prices. Yes. [40:38] Chair (presiding officer): Anyway, good luck. Thank you for coming in. Thank you for your time. Okay. Okay, we did have a third item on our agenda, and the applicant requested postponement of that. That would be the Walmart Supercenter OPD expansion, so just for the public, so that they understand why we are not going to be addressing that this evening. Is there any other further business, Natalie, other than we've moved our site walk to next Monday, right? [41:09] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: Yes, the site walk for the Sambar Apartments will be on October 5th at 5 p.m. due to the rain. [41:21] Chair (presiding officer): Hopefully the weather is going to change a little after we get all the rain we do need. Okay, is there anything else? [41:28] Natalie Thompson, Town Planner: Okay. I move to adjourn. [41:34] Chair (presiding officer): Okay, all those in favor? It is unanimous we are adjourned. Thank you for joining us.